On 10/17/05, temitchell at sympatico.ca < temitchell at sympatico.ca > wrote: > I would think that serpentmen would be able to swim by default. Perhaps some classes as well like the swashbuckler? If Mark's point about weight is included, then what you would say instead is that serpentmen and swashbucklers would be able to carry heavier weights, with less chance of sinking, maybe even wear (light) armour. - that would increase their range, but maybe only by 50-100% I'm curious as to why you think serpentmen should be able to swim though. Most ground based snakes do not (AFAIK) swim particularly well. To my mind serpentmen bear more similarity to these than they do to crocodiles or alligators. Also, being cold blooded, swimming in cold water would make their muscles seize up, and they would drown. Likewise, quetzalcoatl should have a penalty to swimming (all those feathers getting waterlogged) and I don't think fireborn not swimming would be contentious from a consistancy point of view..... wrt classes, I'm not quite convinced of the swashbuckler being able to swim. A swashbuckler is merely a swordsman who acts with great flair, they never neccessarily go near water (zorro, the three musketers). Arguably the swashbuckler in crossfire is actually more of a privateer, in which case such a thing would make more sense.