On 20/10/05, Mark Wedel < mwedel at sonic.net > wrote: > But I do think giving someone permanent or at will ethereal travel will be > very powerful, even with some of the limitations. The fact is that lots of maps > have enough wall space where an ethereal creature could effectively hide out > away from any attackers. I'd certainly much rather temporary items (potions) > be added first and see what that breaks. There is already a map which does that. You can find it in Lake Country , in the training tower, if you go up 3-4 floors. You can then apply a dust and gain ability to walk through walls on that map for a while. I imagine it does it with a force and checkinv in every space that looks like a wall.