[crossfire] Re: [Crossfire-devel] Made a CVS upload error: /maps-bigworld/unlinked/mlab-devel/mlab-devel.tar.gz

[Mark Wedel]

Mitch Obrian wrote:
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      For all other maps sans mlab I follow the map guide.
     
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      However mlab was started way before these, thus it
     
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      uses the flatdirectory structure so it stays working.
     
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      I've seen maps break many times before, including my
     
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      tavern when it was uploaded to cvs originally.
     
     
  The issue is that there seems to be no work on your part to move it into the 
proper directory layout.

  If there was some progess being made in going to a non flat structure, 
wouldn't be a big deal.

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      Why must there be contoversy just over a file system? 
     
     
  Ask yourself the same question - why can't you fix them so they aren't in a 
flat directory.

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      If I can't upload my maps to CVS where do I back them
     
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      up to? Are they that worthless? I do a fair amount of
     
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      CF work in arches and non-mlab maps, could I have
     
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      alittle slack? Why is there opposistion just because I
     
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      put the maps in their own flatlevel dir?
     
     
  Sourceforge and the crossfire distribution in particular is not meant to 
provide a backup service for people.

  There are standard practices for a reason.  The second exceptions start 
getting made for one person, the next person shows up and says 'well, you did it 
for him, why not for me'.  And figuring out what rules to break for who then 
leads to a mess of problems.

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      The reasoning that mlab doesn't even deserve to be in
     
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      CVS is very alienating, I've worked years on theses
     
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      maps. I work nearly constantly on maps for CF.
     
     
  I don't think I said it doesn't deserve to be in CVS.  I've just said that if 
it is in CVS, it should follow proper standards.

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      Mlab could be intergrated into CF-proper right now if
     
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      I was just given the OK. If an exception to the dir
     
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      rule was made.
     
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      I though after being involved in CF this long the
     
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      controversy was over and I could develop as a regular
     
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      without asking about every change. I uploaded mlab so
     
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      it would be with CF, so if my computers go down my
     
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      years of work are not lost. Sure one can say "go find
     
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      some other place to back up to" but... that's
     
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      basically telling the person to screw off; their work
     
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      is of little value.
     
     
  Simple solution is that if you make the directory structure follow the proper 
naming, it could be an official part of the map distribution.

  The only issue is that your completely unwilling to do that.  Some people have 
even started the work to integrate your maps with proper naming structure, but 
you continue to keep going with yours (so that even those get updated).

  Sure, we could make an exception.  Or you could just follow the rules.  The 
fact that your not willing to make any effort to do so doesn't give me any 
reason whatever on why I should bend the rules for you.