<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 9/1/05, <b class="gmail_sendername">Mark Wedel</b> <<a href="mailto:mwedel@sonic.net">mwedel@sonic.net</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
tchize wrote:<br><br>>> You get fatigue by doing strenous things (swimming, flying via skill,<br>>>attacking, moving a lot).<br>><br>><br>> Or just being awake ? or it will not be fatigue but stamina :)
<br><br> Idea was more physical fatigue not mental. I personally don't want to have to<br>rest my character if I'm still wanting to play.</blockquote><div><br>
I like the idea of fatigue, but in CF days are so short that
battles often last for weeks, and players can happily survive on 2-3
meals a week. If fatigue is introduced in the same way, that you only
need to sleep (use_skill rest) once in a while it would be acceptable.<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>>> You lose fatigue by resting - this can basically be measured by the<br>>>character having an action and not actually doing anything. Certain magic
<br>>>potions could also reduce fatigue.</blockquote><div><br>
But should be temporary improvement followed by getting very fatigued
after that. Overdosing should eventually make you so fatigued you die.
Also fatigue effects should be incremental with time. So when fully
fresh you start at full stats. Then, after about 30 minutes of play you
lose a stat, after another 15 minutes another stat, then after 8, 4, 2,
and then 1 for every other minute of play. When all stats get to 1 you
should start losing hp, until you die from fatigue or use_skill rest.
Resting on a bed should speed up recovery (or perhaps change how much
you can recover, so sleeping on the ground will not get you very good
rest?)<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">> apply bed to reality?<br><br> could be, but you'd have to record how long it was saved for (if I save and
<br>reload immediately, shouldn't be any advantage).</blockquote><div><br>
IMO bed of reality should not change in functionality. </div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> That said, if the character is doing nothing - just standing there, I'd expect
<br>fatigue should drop pretty darn faster - it should drop faster than you get HP<br>back for example.</blockquote><div><br>
Staying awake is an effort. If you don't believe me try doing it for a week.<br>
</div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> So basically, fatigue would really come in to play if your doing continuous<br>
work, eg, combat all the time, flying around the world as dragon, etc. But once<br>you stop doing those things, you'd get back to 0 fatigue relatively quickly.</blockquote><div><br>
Although it seems what is being discusses here is physical tirednes
like from running or lifting weights and so on, which is a different
tirednes than that from staying awake. Perhaps they could be combined
together so<br>
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total_fatigue = waking_fatigue + active_fatigue<br>
</div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">>> If not carrying much, you wouldn't get much fatigue - thus, a lightly<br>
>>equipped person could run around all day and not have to rest much.<br>><br>><br>> Race dependent?<br><br> One could certainly add more variation - different races weighing different<br>amount, different carrying capacities, etc. But one issue is that armor is one
<br>size fit all - a halfling should rightfully have smaller and lighter armor than<br>a human.</blockquote><div><br>
Race and class items deserver their own thread, and IMO a very good
idea if someone has the time to create new archetypes and add
race/class restrictions to items. <br>
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</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Other thoughts:<br>One could give chairs and non savebeds some meaning - sit in one of those,
<br>fatigue goes down faster.</blockquote><div><br>
This goes back to my use_skill rest idea <br>
</div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> In some states, even when idle, you can't get back fatigue. EG, if you're<br>swimming or flying, you can't be resting - if you just staying in one place,
<br>maybe you fatigue just doesn't go up quite as fast.</blockquote><div><br>
A good observation. If anything flying and swimming should increase
fatigue unless you are a firebourne and are flying (or a lizard person
and swimming?) and you should only be able to use skill rest when on
the ground. <br>
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