Seems http://ftp.netrek.org doesn't have the latest Vanilla release. Looks like only the SourceForge site is being updated with releases for the past 3 years. Here is the latest one that's up there: /pub/netrek/servers/vanilla/Vanilla-2.9pl8.tar.gz 05-Dec-2002 21:32 952k If you stick the latest release, Vanilla-2.10.2, up on ftp.netrek.org perhaps you can update the Vanilla page to show a link to it (it already lists several methods for getting the client): http://vanilla.netrek.org/ Zach