Thanks for the pointers. Neither Dozer could find the linux box with the Start > Find > Confuser tip or the Explorer tip. I went through the netconf on the Linux box and tried every damn quad six ways to Sunday but I couldn't get the Linux box to recognize the Dozers either. Which ping switch? I tried # ping host and ping -I (several different quads from IP address to localhost to you name it) host and all pings returned "unknown host host" Oh well. The help button in the netconf program tells me to run autoconfig, but there's no autoconfig anywhere to be found in any of the selections. You mentioned inetd. 'Splain Lucy. I went to /usr/sbin and found inetd. I tried running it in terminal both as user and root but all I got was some noise on the HDD and then another command line. I tried the computer find stuff again on both Dozers and they still couldn't find the Linux box. And the guys at RedHat, Mandrake and Turbo thought Linux could work on desktops for nimrods like me. Sure hope they got promoted for that idea. Ken Russell The Russell Pottery --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org