> http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/ Thanks -- that was a great help. Now I learned that the pam_cracklib.so controls the password security checking features. The docs give this as an example. passwd password required pam_cracklib.so retry=3 passwd password required pam_pwdb.so use_authtok (http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/pam-6.html#ss6.3 explains it well) But looking at my system I see cracklib being called by pam not just for passwd when changing the password, but also in chfn, chsh, gdm, login and su -- basically any program that does authorization. What is teh pam_cracklib doing for authorization? Does does anything but passwd need/want it? Thanks Ben --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org