If I have a file with perm 770 and I'm a member of the group, but not the owner, I have write permission, but if I open up the file with jed, jed insists that the file is readonly -- is there a way around this, or should I get use another text editor? Ben --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org