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>    1. Re: [OT] My OmniKey died!!!!!!!!!! (fjorn)
>    2. Re: [OT] My OmniKey died!!!!!!!!!! (Liz Burke-Scovill)
>    3. Re: [OT] My OmniKey died!!!!!!!!!! (Ben Kochie)
>    4. Re: [OT] My OmniKey died!!!!!!!!!! (Nate Carlson)
>    5. Re: [OT] My OmniKey died!!!!!!!!!! (Yaron)
>    6. (OT) Video card needed (Bill Layer)
>    7. Re: tclug-list kybd cleaning (Jerry M Nolan)
>    8. Re: (OT) Video card needed (Scott Dier)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 10:43:25 -0600
> From: fjorn <fjorn at mninter.net>
> To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] [OT] My OmniKey died!!!!!!!!!!
> Reply-To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
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> I must be the odd one here.  I like to type on a quiet keyboard.  Can't stand
> the incessant clickety-click while typing.  Worked with a guy who had one of
> those.  Needless to say one day it died, and was I ever grateful that he
> couldn't find anymore like it!
> 
> Why do you need a noisey KB to type anyway?  Is it to make sure that you know
> you're hitting the key?  Why not just look at the monitor when typing instead of
> your fingers, makes better use of your time.
> 
> For me, I prefer the newer vintage IBM keyboards....  Gone are the days of being
> in a noisey computer room that masked the noise of the old keyboards.
> 
> Shawn
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 10:48:04 -0600 (CST)
> From: Liz Burke-Scovill <kethry at winternet.com>
> To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] [OT] My OmniKey died!!!!!!!!!!
> Reply-To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
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> 
> Nope - you're not the only one - though I prefer something somewhere in
> the middle - but then I started out typing on IRC and as a secretary - and
> I can type faster one a quieter keyboard - and allow the tactile
> impression give me the sastifaction that the clickety-clack USED to
> provide me with when I was learning to type. (It was so cool to hear the
> clickety-clacks get faster and faster - but the noise is more distracting
> now *chuckle*).
> 
> Liz
> 
> On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, fjorn wrote:
> 
> > I must be the odd one here.  I like to type on a quiet keyboard.  Can't stand
> > the incessant clickety-click while typing.  Worked with a guy who had one of
> > those.  Needless to say one day it died, and was I ever grateful that he
> > couldn't find anymore like it!
> > 
> > Why do you need a noisey KB to type anyway?  Is it to make sure that you know
> > you're hitting the key?  Why not just look at the monitor when typing instead of
> > your fingers, makes better use of your time.
> > 
> > For me, I prefer the newer vintage IBM keyboards....  Gone are the days of being
> > in a noisey computer room that masked the noise of the old keyboards.
> > 
> > Shawn
> > 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 10:50:36 -0600 (CST)
> From: Ben Kochie <ben at nerp.net>
> To: <tclug-list at lists.real-time.com>
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] [OT] My OmniKey died!!!!!!!!!!
> Reply-To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
> 
> I think it's not more of the noise, but the feel, the noisy keyboards
> genearly have a better feel, of something actualy hapening when you type..
> plus some of us have to look at a 2nd source of information when they
> type, and can't look at the screen to see what they just typed.. it's the
> full feedback thing.. plus, from what I've seen, most of the soft-key
> keypads can be sticky, just low-quality crap.. makes it hard to type on.
> at work I have an old IBM AT thing, with the removeable keycaps, I pop all
> the caps off, and dishwasher them everyonce in a while.. I don't
> dishwasher the whole keyboard tho..
> 
> Thank You,
>         Ben Kochie (ben at nerp.net)
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> On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, fjorn wrote:
> 
> > I must be the odd one here.  I like to type on a quiet keyboard.  Can't stand
> > the incessant clickety-click while typing.  Worked with a guy who had one of
> > those.  Needless to say one day it died, and was I ever grateful that he
> > couldn't find anymore like it!
> >
> > Why do you need a noisey KB to type anyway?  Is it to make sure that you know
> > you're hitting the key?  Why not just look at the monitor when typing instead of
> > your fingers, makes better use of your time.
> >
> > For me, I prefer the newer vintage IBM keyboards....  Gone are the days of being
> > in a noisey computer room that masked the noise of the old keyboards.
> >
> > Shawn
> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 11:13:28 -0600 (CST)
> From: Nate Carlson <natecars at real-time.com>
> To: <tclug-list at lists.real-time.com>
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] [OT] My OmniKey died!!!!!!!!!!
> Reply-To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
> 
> On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Ben Kochie wrote:
> > I think it's not more of the noise, but the feel, the noisy keyboards
> > genearly have a better feel, of something actualy hapening when you type..
> > plus some of us have to look at a 2nd source of information when they
> > type, and can't look at the screen to see what they just typed.. it's the
> > full feedback thing.. plus, from what I've seen, most of the soft-key
> > keypads can be sticky, just low-quality crap.. makes it hard to type on.
> > at work I have an old IBM AT thing, with the removeable keycaps, I pop all
> > the caps off, and dishwasher them everyonce in a while.. I don't
> > dishwasher the whole keyboard tho..
> 
> I'm on a HP keyboard right now.. it's not really clicky, but you can hear
> each keystroke, and feel it.. I much prefer this over the old IBM
> keyboards where you have you slam each key down.. I can type a helluva lot
> faster.  :)
> 
> Plus, the noise of the keycaps just makes you turn the music up louder..
> which I'm sure would piss off my neighbors back here (*waves to chad and
> carl*)
> 
> -- 
> Nate Carlson <natecars at real-time.com>   | Phone : (952)943-8700
> http://www.real-time.com                | Fax   : (952)943-8500
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> 
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 11:19:30 -0600 (CST)
> From: Yaron <jethro at freakzilla.com>
> To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] [OT] My OmniKey died!!!!!!!!!!
> Reply-To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
> 
>   Hi,
> 
> On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, fjorn wrote:
> 
> > Why do you need a noisey KB to type anyway?  Is it to make sure that you know
> > you're hitting the key?  Why not just look at the monitor when typing instead of
> > your fingers, makes better use of your time.
> 
> It's not so much the NOISE. It's the FEEL of the CLICK. It's hard to
> explain, it's a tactile thing rather than an audio thing. Just feels
> better than those MUSHY keyboards. 
> 
> As a side-effect it's loud. I really don't mind. 
> 
> -Yaron
> 
> --
> 
> 
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> Message: 6
> From: "Bill Layer" <b.layer at vikingelectronics.com>
> Organization: Viking Electronics, Inc.
> Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 11:22:37 -0600
> To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
> Subject: [TCLUG] (OT) Video card needed
> Reply-To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
> 
> I'm in need of a basic AGP (maybe even PCI if I get the right deal) video 
> card, 8MB or better. An older TNT1 16MB card would be ideal; I don't need 
> anything fancy, something that was state-of-the-art two years ago would be 
> fine. Of course, linux support is mandatory.
> 
> If you have such an item for sale or trade, please reply off-list. Thanks!
> 
> -- 
> Bill Layer
> <b.layer at vikingelectronics.com>
> 
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> Message: 7
> To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
> Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 11:22:37 -0600
> From: Jerry M Nolan <nolanjm at juno.com>
> Subject: [TCLUG] Re: tclug-list kybd cleaning
> Reply-To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
> 
> down at the po we just sprayed some 409 and held it upside down, so it
> wouldn't hit the
> membrane.  then use a medium flat blade screwdriver to clean between the
> keytops
> we did this about once a month cuz of all the dust on the workroom floor.
>  never had a failure.    here at home I once tried taking one apart that
> had already failed.  I washed the
> PCB with alcohol and a lint free q-tip . it worked for about 2 weeks. 
> good luck,  Jerry
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 11:42:43 -0600
> From: Scott Dier <dieman at ringworld.org>
> To: tclug-list at lists.real-time.com
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG] (OT) Video card needed
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> You might wanna see if someones got a g200 or g400 laying around.  Nice
> 2d cards for using with X.
> 
> --=20
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