Let me see...ah, here's a brick wall... *bonk* *bonk* *bonk* *bonk* *bonk* Maybe just maybe you should read the very bottom of list messages, it's on every mesage: https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list Or, like any standard mailing list, tclug-request at lists.real-time.com w/ a subject of unsubscripe usually does the trick (or spits you an informative error message) In the case of mail man, you put unsubscribe user at host.tld password I'll go back to beating my head agnist a brick wall now. *bonk* *bonk* *bonk* I think... *bonk* *bonk* I'm going... *bonk* *bonk* *bonk* to loose.... *bonk* *bonk* *bonk* *bonk* conscienceness... *bonk* *bonk* *bonk* *bonk* *bonk* now... -- Andy Zbikowski, Sys Admin | (WEB) http://www.ltiflex.com LTI Flexible Products, Inc. | (PH) 763-428-9119 (EX) 132 21801 Industrial Blvd | (FX) 763-428-9126 Rogers, MN 55374 | (PCS) 612-306-6055