First, where is the hole that's letting the spam in? IF the spammers ARE really going to all the trouble of subscribing to the list to spam it then there isn't much we can do. If they've found some hole that's letting them post to the list without being subscribed, yeah, ORBS has to be done. If we go ORBS and end you end up not being able to post, come to the meeting and hook up with someone running IMP. :) -- | Andrew S. Zbikowski | Home: 763.591.0977 | | http://www.ringworld.org | Work: 763.428.9119 | | http://www.itouthouse.com | PCS: 612.306.6055 | | "If there's anything more important than my | | ego around, I want it caught and shot now." | -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: andyzib.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 421 bytes Desc: Card for Andy Zbikowski (Zibby) Url : http://shadowknight.real-time.com/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20001212/26e02157/andyzib.vcf