Dunno if this will help you too much, but a quick google search for pam netware turned up this page: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/modules.html There are modules that will let you auth agnist your netware boxes, but you might still have to have a account on the linux machine ( adduser --disabled-passwd username + set shell to /bin/false ) or set the password to complete gibberish and change /etc/pam.d/ppp to use the netware modules and login and everything else use the standard mosules. -- Andy Zbikowski, Sys Admin | (WEB) http://www.ltiflex.com LTI Flexible Products, Inc. | (PH) 763-428-9119 (EX) 132 21801 Industrial Blvd | (FX) 763-428-9126 Rogers, MN 55374 | (PCS) 612-306-6055