> of course everyone is going to say uptime, but real geeks cat /proc/uptime > ;) No, I think the *real* geek would think of that, but opt for the solution with fewer keystrokes. Geek would instead go for the letter "w". But perhaps the excessive output would be deemed undesirable, and so the ultimate result would be along the lines of creating "alias u = 'uptime'". This has the added advantage of customizing one's personal environment so that it's more obscure to the layman. Andy > Thank You, > Ben Kochie (ben at nerp.net)