> As for this automatic get thing you guys get so excited about, I've never > bothered to look because I'd rather grab the rpms when it's convenient for > me, and put them in a place where the other 8 computers can get at them. > I don't see what's so hard about > ncftp ftp://ftp.mn-linux.org/pub/linux/redhat/updates/ > get * Well, the difference is that apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; will upgrade everything automaticaly, and gets the dependencies right (ummm...except in unstable ;) If you want to download those packages for mutiple systems, replace apt-get upgrade with apt-get -d -y upgrade and then use apt-move tool to create a local, apt-get capible mirror. Package description: --- apt-move is used to move a collection of Debian package files into a proper archive hierarchy of the form debian/dists/... It is intended as a tool to help manage the apt-get(8) file cache, but could be configured to work with any collection of Debian packages. Running apt-move periodically will assist in managing the resulting partial mirror by optionally removing obsolete packages, and creating valid local Packages.gz files. It can also optionally employ rsync(1) to build a partial or complete local mirror of a Debian binary distribution (including an ``installed-packages only'' mirror). --- So the same functionality is there, in Debian's usual RTFM kinda way... I will say I wish I had known rpm better before I gave up on Red Hat. =) -- Andy Zbikowski, Sys Admin | (WEB) http://www.ltiflex.com LTI Flexible Products, Inc. | (PH) 763-428-9119 (EX) 132 21801 Industrial Blvd | (FX) 763-428-9126 Rogers, MN 55374 | (PCS) 612-306-6055