Though you qualify the statement, I do not regard it as any less a whine than the others (including my own). I don't have $3k+ to burn, and though I am glad you can solve your own personal problems that way, "I solved my connectivity problems by blowing tons of cash" doesn't help me at all. I want to hear a bit about connectivity issues here (DSL included) because that is something I wish to do with Linux. Admittedly, we've had enough "DSL woes" for a while, but I don't think I should have to "move where DSL is available" and I think that ( NoDSL == "boonies" ) is a silly thing to say and should be corrected. And I think it has. >>> blarson at crary.com 04/06/01 09:30AM >>> SoapboxMode ON I've never seen such a group of whiners.... most of the messages the last few days have been about the woes of DSL in the metropolitain areas... I've had to put have my DSL installed in another town and broadcast it across country via wireless... (at my own expense). Start adding up the costs... $ 35 phone line at remote location /month 60 DSL service / month 2000 wireless Access Point capable of trx long distances (incl. ant.) 700 Station Adapter (incl. ant.) 100 ant lease at elevator ??? Install ant. on top of grain elevator and cable ------- $2895 before I ever get to log on the net... 95 every month there after This isn't a my story is worse than yours... It's GET A GRIP, solve your personal problems and move on to something more relevant to LINUX. SoapboxMode OFF >> Burnsville, for example, is something like half an hour south of me, >> and I'm south of downtown; it's a *long* way out. >You must drive really slow. I can get into downtown Minneapolis or St. >Paul in about 20 minutes. >Compared to where I lived in Maine and New York, this is definately not >the boonies. If you're 20 minutes from an Interstate and a majority of >your neighbors are farms or gravel pits, then you're in the boonies. >You city slickers need to get out more.