I wasn't following the earlier "Loki" posts very carefully. So they're Linux-only ports, right (as opposed to Windoze)? I've never run 3D games under X but am anxious to give it a shot. Where is that sign-up sheet again? I'm interested in Tribes2 and DeusEx (when are they gonna port The Sims?). With all this recent interest in Linux games, maybe we should have a LAN frag-fest! Multi-Mayhem (multi-mayhem.com) is just around the corner, but that costs money and only supports Windoze. We could be the free Linux alternative and maybe woo others in to switching OS. It would be a nice break from the all-work-and-no-play InstallFests. As for joysticks, see my comments below. >From: Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom <chrome at real-time.com> > >I'm thinking about getting a joystick for my computer, because: >a. it might be cool if I ever get around to playing FPS games Use an _optical_ mouse and keyboard for traditional FPS (such as Quake). For vehicle FPS like combat flight/tank sims, a stick w/ throttle would be ideal (if you can afford the desk space and cost). >b. they look kind of cool and make you appear to be a much harder-core >computer user (to many people). Or at least a hard-core slacker to the higher-ups. >c. I'm noticing a decided lack of doodads, gimcracks, & gewgaws attached to >my computer. This is the 8th deadly sin. >d. I haven't ever owned one before. And I thought you were cool. ;-) >so what do people like, for jostick models out there? I'm pretty picky about >how ergonomic the button layout is; and it better work *completely* under >linux; but I have virtually no experience with them. >what are people's advices about joysticks? For a flight stick/throttle go with a Saitek X36 ($100). For an all purpose joystick, nothing beats a Logitech WingMan ($40-70 depending on whether or not you want FF). I have a WingMan 3D Force, but have only used it for XMAME (x.mame.net) in Linux. It works great for modern Windoze games with force-feedback (FF). However, I suspect that Linux FF support is very limited. -Dileep