>If it helps, the fashions on the east coast and california take about a year >and a half to get here. Is this related? The world may never know. One >thing I do know is that there is no shortage of paper MCSE's. Too true- Does anyone remember disco in the midwest? Good reason why not, we never actually "got" disco... this is actually a reason I tend to like living here, we are somewhat (at least prior to massive media) insulated from silly fads. Don't get me wrong, I think we are behind on technology, no question, but that also seems to be a standard of midwestern business ("fly over" area), they are conservative in their direction and pace, and they tend to like to ride behind the leaders in business as well. THis isn't to say that we suck and don't know what we're doing, but to say that sometimes, caution is the better part of valor (or however my dad's old quote went). Basically, there's nothing wrong with being somewhat behind if you are there for a reason and you use it to your advantage. But we can't stay there forever, and we need to move forward at some point, I've also seen the businesses that refuse to change, they die off in time, but it takes a while. Later, mbutler