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On Thu, 06 Dec 2001, Austad, Jay wrote:

> Yes, it wouldn't find all of my folders.  Only Inbox, nothing under it.
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bret Baptist [mailto:bbaptist at iexposure.com] 
> > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 12:46 PM
> > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org
> > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] ms outlook under WINE?
> > 
> > 
> > Have you tried using the Mozilla IMAP client yet?  I have no 
> > idea if it would 
> > be fast enough for you, but it is worth a try.
> > 
> > Bret.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thursday 06 December 2001 11:16 am, you wrote:
> > > > I don't know if this helps or not, but I just read that IBM is 
> > > > producing a Domino server that is supposed to "play well with 
> > > > Outlook".  I think if I remember correctly it's based on Linux.
> > >
> > > Have you used Domino though?  I have, it sucks bigtime.
> > >
> > > Anyway, I just need something to run under linux that will 
> > play well 
> > > with exchange and use all of the scheduling features, and handle my 
> > > enormous mailbox.  Every single IMAP client I try either seg faults 
> > > halfway through grabbing my message headers, is abysmally slow, or 
> > > doesn't find all of my folders.
> > >
> > > Jay
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Austad, Jay [mailto:austad at marketwatch.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 12:54 PM
> > > > To: 'tclug-list at mn-linux.org'
> > > > Subject: RE: [TCLUG] ms outlook under WINE?
> > > >
> > > > > Wow.  why in the world would a person need/want/think about 50K 
> > > > > messages in a mailbox?
> > > >
> > > > I'm on many different mailing lists for various software 
> > packages, 
> > > > security lists, and other things.  Plus, I get several hundred 
> > > > emails a week from people I work with on various issues.  I get 
> > > > nearly 1000 messages a day, and most get deleted.  I 
> > delete what I 
> > > > can do without, but I really need to keep as much around 
> > as possible 
> > > > in case I need to look back on it.  I lost about 3 months of mail 
> > > > from late 1999, and I find myself needing to go back and 
> > find stuff
> > > > from then fairly often.  My mailbox tends to act as my memory
> > > > for almost all of my work related stuff.  If I delete
> > > > something, chances are I will forget the details of it 3 
> > months later.
> > > >
> > > > One of the Kmail developers told me that Outlook uses 
> > IMAP to pull 
> > > > mail from an exchange server, but I think he's wrong. Outlook 
> > > > connects to ports 1225 and 1226 on the exchange server, 
> > not the IMAP 
> > > > port.  Exchange sends notifications to the client when new mail 
> > > > arrives also, with IMAP, you have to check every few minutes.  
> > > > Having the scheduling, mail, task lists, and other things all 
> > > > together is actually nice once you've gotten used to it. I'm much 
> > > > more productive now that I was at my last company where we had 
> > > > separate systems for everything, and no integrated scheduling.  I 
> > > > think the concept of Exchange/Lotus Notes is right, but the
> > > > implementations suck. Outlook is bloated and slow, Exchange
> > > > is buggy, Notes just plain sucks ass in all respects (except
> > > > for the "runs on Solaris" part).  PHPGroupware is nice, but
> > > > the requirement of a web interface to use it sucks, although,
> > > > I think they are working on a KDE or GNOME client that just
> > > > pulls and posts XML in the background.
> > > >
> > > > Isn't The Kompany working on an integrated system for 
> > Aethera?  Or 
> > > > was that the gnome people for Evolution?  Right now, there are no 
> > > > open standards for this type of thing, and there needs to 
> > be.  Even 
> > > > better, whatever kind of server that ends up getting 
> > developed for 
> > > > linux needs to have some sort of connector to MS Exchange so 
> > > > companies could have a nice easy migration path, instead of just 
> > > > tearing out one system and replacing it with another.  
> > And it also 
> > > > needs to have some sort of clustering/redundancy built in.  Notes 
> > > > and Exchange have a rather poor implementation of clustering, but
> > > > it does work, and it will most likely save your ass if one of
> > > > the servers dies/crashes/explodes.  I know I wouldn't
> > > > implement any kind of mailserver solution in a large
> > > > corporate environment without some sort of failover
> > > > (preferably transparent).  Failover should be easy, just
> > > > replicate every database transaction to your standby server,
> > > > and use tools from the linuxHA project to do the actual
> > > > failover monitoring.  I don't know how easy it is to
> > > > replicate both ways, but if it was easy, setting up a cluster
> > > > using the linux virtual server would be fairly trivial also.
> > > >
> > > > Bah, enough of my ranting.  I have work to do.  In fact, 
> > work to do 
> > > > on mailservers, something which I'm quite sick of.
> > > >
> > > > Jay
> > > >
> > > > > duncan
> > > > >
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