got this off one of my mailing lists. Says a lot about the Asian market. >>> Have I got a story for you. I am living in Korea, and I called up the cable co to get the cheap cable internet here. They come over to my house and try to config my computer. It's pretty funny because the guy is looking at a KDE desktop and he is asking me where the start button is. I tell him it isn't windows anymore, but he can't believe that there is anything but windows out there. I typed in one line - "dhcpcd" - and everything worked. He couldn't believe that it was that simple. What's funny is I was trying to get him to say the magical words, "We use DHCP", but he didn't even know what that was. What was even funnier is he was surprised that I didn't have to reboot to get it all to work. Jonathan <<< I've heard before that the Asian market is pretty well locked into a Windows mindset... people there haven't been shown anything other than the MS desktop. for those companies with mainframes; the knowlege and understanding of them is a closely held secret, to which one is 'initiated' after some time... lots of ordinary techs don't even know their company has one. Of course, that's not unheard of in this country either. Ignorance is heedless of race or tribe. :) Carl Soderstrom. -- Network Engineer Real-Time Enterprises (952) 943-8700