Thanks for the info. I was able to remove MySQL and then reinstall the rpm, but I do not have a mysqladmin. Is there something else that takes its place with this new version, or is it broke. Need advice how to resolve this. Raymond ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Hicks" <hick0088 at tc.umn.edu> To: <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [TCLUG] weird problem