Brandon, This reads a bit mysterious, but I think we should probably have a look at the relevant log file bits and maybe some of the configuration files too (edit out sensitive data - probably isn't too much of that though). I think most Mandrake users on the list are using it as desktops (with a few exceptions) so the answer/fix might not pop immediately into anyone's head. Other information it would be good to know is the version of Apache you are using (1.3.22 is the most recent 1.3.x version) and how you installed it (rpm, source, cvs,...), along with anything special (like mod_perl, PHP, *ASP,...). Snippets from the messages log file, as well as the httpd log file, might be useful from around httpd's 'time of death'. If this is the Apache that came with Mandrake, is there any information on the Mandrake web site about this problem? It is important to provide as much information up front as possible because it demonstrates that you've invested a significant amount of time tracking the problem. It makes some kind hearted admin think they're helping a frustrated worker bee, and not just doing some non- RTFM-ing lazy person's footwork. Now, if you don't know exactly what information you should be providing to solve this problem, that is a excellent question to ask. I say this because people don't mind clicking over a few K of text about a problem, but list users might get angry if they have to download a multi- megabyte log file. For kicks you might put a cron job in that retrieves a page every day using 'lynx' (man lynx) to see if that matters. Good luck, Troy >>> bhenak at att.net 12/11/01 12:44PM >>> Hello- I am a senior student at the Academy of Holy Angels in Richfield we I am currently setting up a Linux web/FTP sever and hope to configure it to interact with school databases through ASP (Possibly with Chilisoft) I have been designing web pages for 6 years and along the way was the webmaster for macobsession.com and MacFare a weekly Apple related webcast. I gained the little experience I have in ASP and corporate networks through a full time I.T. internship at TCF Leasing Headquaters I.T. department over the summer. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. My current trouble involves my server automatically shutting down the apache server. It may be directly involved with the fact that it is currently still in the test phase and get very little traffic. Linux does not actually shut down or freeze up just the server. Either by coincedence or cause the shutdown happens after 1-2 days of inactivity. I check the logs and after 1-2 days of no traffic a line saying that SIGTERM or something to that effect is displayed and there are no more entries. Any ideas? AMD 450 190 Mb Ram 2Gb Hard Drive Mandrake-Linux 7.2 Thank you for your time, Brandon Henak _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list