Your suspicions are very reasonable. And our government is exploiting the terrorist threat to set aside Constitutional restraint. But the statistics of thousands (millions?) of cold, starving refugees concentrated in tent camps and dead bodies everywhere is a formula for disease. If the U.N. (WHO) is looking into it, and Iran and Pakistan are involved, we'll hear about it. My concern is; are we helping or hurting the terrorists with this "war." This looks like Viet Nam to me, except far worse. We need an open dialog like you encourage. This is an extremely dangerous time. The Saudi regime is the terrorists real target. -----Original Message----- From: Bill Layer [SMTP:blayer at qwest.net] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:00 AM To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Subject: Re: [TCLUG] Re: OT: war-related news blackout? On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 11:24:04 -0600 "Scott Dier" <dieman+tclug at ringworld.org> wrote: > * Bill Layer <blayer at qwest.net> [011213 10:53]: > > Is this an honest-to-god news blackout that I am witnessing? Anyone else > > heard of this story? > > Naa, likely lots of retractions based on this: > > http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/293127 Oh right... We all thought it was an outbreak of Hemmorhagic fever, but it turned out to be just another government weather baloon ;) I don't believe a single word of it. The article you posted is over two months old... the story as I read it was evolving as recently as several days ago. This was not 'old news'. Also, did you listen to Art Bell's comments last night? He went on at some length about the fact that the story was pulled from the sources that he had quoted. In this war, we are witnessing the most egregious erosion of our personal liberties in the history of this country. Secret Presidential Military Tribunals? Loss of attourney-client privilege? Roaming wiretaps? Secret witnesses? Sealed evidences? Carnivore? Magic Lantern? And hey, indefinite detentions are old news... Times are changing in America, and it stinks to high heaven. Just my one rant, -.bill.layer.- .-frogtown.mn.usa.- .-Microsoft.Windows.XP.- -.suddenly.everything.sucks-. _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list