I have been hearing rumblings from many people and companies about the poor service from Onvoy. Connectivity, co-lo, hosting, etc... I have to admit, I have a soft spot for Onvoy, because in the old days, MrNet rocked. But after each acquistion, service got worse. Anyway, I took down our MrNet link to see WHEN I would get a response from them that my link was down. 48 hours and still nothing. In the old days, it was around 15 minutes. Ahh, let the slashback, or TCLUGback begin. -- Bob Tanner <tanner at real-time.com> | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 Key fingerprint = 6C E9 51 4F D5 3E 4C 66 62 A9 10 E5 35 85 39 D9