There are certain pieces of software out there that expect you to have a real IP. Many games are like that. Napster expects it - although it can be configured to use a proxy or you can forward a port for it. Running servers on multiple machines also requires more public static IPs. That is reason enough. Also, I am not to concerned about diluting the IPv4 set of addresses. There are still a considerable amount left - and the pressure of running out will only push IPv6 out faster. It really needs to become the standard instead of a simple test platform. Tom Veldhouse veldy at veldy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason DeStefano" <destef at destef.com> To: <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 8:48 AM Subject: RE: [TCLUG] ATT Broadband > > Well, I'm not going to elaborate on my needs for multiple IP's (static > preferably) for fear of starting another holy-war from the IP-zealots that > feel its their job to make sure the IP4 adderss space is not used up. > I have certain needs that proxy/nat/masq whatever cant meet and > therefore i prefer multiple static ip's for the same reason any company > out there needs a subnet. I've designed and administered enterprise > level networks for years and also write network software from firewalls > to RMON2 probes on linux so Im aware when places like time-warner > are doing a shoddy job or just feeding me BS (or both in this case). > > As for the internal network thing. I already have 2 nics (at least) in every > box and have a local 10-net for my private traffic. That way when time- > warner's crap equipment doesnt do its job I dont lose network access > internally at least. I'd rather not waste my time administering my own > network like its a job which is what having an internal network, masq'ing > ip's, using DHCP address that constantly change, etc. makes me do. > I'd much rather have a static subnet, statically IP my boxes once and > be done with it. That way I can spend more time designing useful > software and writing code for the people of this world instead of > spending my time building and maintaining a "titanium network-fort". > > Cheers > > At 07:50 AM 1/25/01 -0600, you wrote: > >Question, why did you "buy" five IP's. I would love to know what you plan > >to do with them. I have one IP and route my other two computers through > >Linux to the internet. As for tech(no)support, I would not be surprise if > >you were right about them passing the phone around. The sad thing is that I > >know as much about networking as there level one and two people do and the > >only training I had was a semester of networking at St. Paul Tech and the > >course was not that great either. > > > >Other information: > >I have two NICs registered with ATT Broadband (mediaone). They allow you to > >have up to three registered, you can only use them one at a time. > > > >Try putting a second NIC in your Linux machine and try connecting, say your > >laptop, through it out to the internet. I have hard coded the IP address > >for the intranet because that is the only way I know how to do it right now. > >I am using 192.168.0.1 through 192.168.0.3. I don't need to access the > >other two machines from outside my home so this setup works well. > > > >As per the warning I received yesterday. Here is my message in plain text, > >thanks to all for not flaming me. > > > > > >John Miller > >Dain Rauscher Inc. > >Application Services > >IS Capital Markets > >Phone 612-547-7573 > >Fax 612-547-7580 > > > _______________________________________________ > tclug-list mailing list > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >