http://www.mail-abuse.org/subscription.html As I have personally sent thousands of open relays to MAPS you'd think there would be some sort compensation or free-use ability. But just like CDDB (which I also submitted hundreds of cds to) they take the communities hardwork and turn it into a profit maker. What are the other choices? I remember seeing a couple of places pickup the old ORBs stuff. Anyone using them? -- Bob Tanner <tanner at real-time.com> | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.mn-linux.org | Fax : (952)943-8500 Key fingerprint = 6C E9 51 4F D5 3E 4C 66 62 A9 10 E5 35 85 39 D9