And the worst part of it is that VISI.com is now offering it for $19.99. :) Just thought I should through that in as it is a new change made over the weekend. I think it was instigated by DSL.net corporation and not by VISI.com. Tom Veldhouse veldy at veldy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Tanner" <tanner at real-time.com> To: <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [TCLUG] Good Covad ISP's As an ISP, I agree. When we see the competition offering 640k/256k routed networks for $25/month I just shake my head and ask how can they make any money? The cost of the ATM link, the hardware, the backbone connectivity AND people's salaries add up quickly and getting only $25/month/client means you have to have lots of clients who don't call to often for support! Flipe side. The customer is able to ISP hop for the best deals. Definately a customer market.