Just as an update, There are 27 in all, as of right now, set to go out the door, I have to say that I am extremely happy with mine, I am biased, mostly because a lot of my best times adminnning have been SGIs, but honestly, IRIX is an amazing OS, there are parts to it that you will find nowhere else, it does some things so well, I am still in shock, even on my realtively "old" box (keep in mind, these are RISC based chips running at 150Mhz that many years ago, wow...I miss Alpha). Another small tidbit, SGI tends to "tweak" it's network interfaces on it's boxes, from what I understand, they set the timeouts very low and do their best to get teh fastest interface they can on a given box. I used to have a Sparc5 and an SGI O2 to play with, I would have one steal the other's ip once in a while, just to see what it did to a network. Without fail, the SGI was fine, he arp'd faster than the Sun, and pretty much without fail, the Sun spit out a console message about someone using his ip address, and a few times, he panic'd... good humor on a Friday.... later, mbutler