Thank you for just being smart and concerned. If I can digress, that's just how big money plays. I've finally figured out why my energy initiatives have again resulted in threats to my life. It wasn't the methanol fuel cells. In 1987 I proposed (to William Norris, because of my earlier internet effort, then head of a state Econ. Dev. group) to recycle plastic and mass produce a livestock manure tank that produces methane fuel. State and local politicos now are pushing an impossibly expensive concrete version and want million$ in public money and my local State Senator is running for Congress on the idea. Their intent is to build a few expensive "manure digesters" using government "grants" for a few big farmers, thus killing off the remaining small independent farmers by using public money. Does anybody really believe corn ethanol is a valid fuel?? Using recycled plastic would provide thousands of better, cheaper livestock septic tanks. I'm not asking for money from them, just some truth. This energy technology could generate thousands of megawatts from rural Minnesota, improve the environment and farm efficiency, and all from recycled plastic garbage and animal shit. The power companies and agribusiness make M$ look tame. That's why the internet was so important, a free exchange of info. The M$ monopoly does not have the same impact on your life as does the food you eat or the energy you use. Linux will win but it will take smart people like you to believe in yourself. That's what I got from Otto Schmitt; It's OK to believe in your own ideas. -----Original Message----- From: Scott Dier [SMTP:dieman+tclug at ringworld.org] Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 1:25 AM To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Subject: [TCLUG] Re: mircosoft settlement option * Rick Engebretson <eng at pinenet.com> [011123 16:51]: > Linux is now better for schools. I don't even care if this is true or not, the settlement is allowing microsoft set the cost of .9bil of the costs. Thats just sick! At least cig. companies have costs. Microsoft will most likely give preinstalled machines with one set of install media for the whole lot. And then even, its not scalable, cause to really scale a w2k based network you should at least have a DC and stuff. And even then, they might just give them XP home, which would mean they are totally screwed for expanding without spending lots of money. (xp home cant join domains) -- Scott Dier <dieman at ringworld.org> <sdier at debian.org> http://www.ringworld.org/ #linuxos at irc.openprojects.net So I ran up to him, and the exchange went something like this: Me: Oh my god! You're Larry Niven! Him: Oh my god! You're Wil Wheaton! -Wil Wheaton, in a Slashdot interview _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list