Zibby, deep breaths, good air in, bad air out...repeat. Sit back, do this four thousand, two hundred and sixteen times. You will feel better or you will pass out in which case you will feel nothing for a short time. I/we know that doing a compile isn't really that bad. For those of us that are too stupid (me) or can't get Debian to run on their hardware (me, again) we would like RPM's. Yes, I am running Mandrake 8.1 which does label me as a bit of a pariah/idiot. Here, I learn new things that I can use at work everyday. I thank you for your support but you need to settle down buddy, it's ok. Linux is not just for the geek at heart anymore, learn to live with it. It may even work to your benefit. Sometime in the next five years Microsoft will fall much in the same way that IBM did in the 80's, When it does something will need to fill the void. My guess is that it will be Mac OSX on the desktop and Linux on the server. Windows is flawed, we all know it. Something better has to happen. It will soon. In the mean time, breathe in, breathe out, repeat........cont....... Andy Zbikowski (Zibby) wrote: > And the big deal is? Pre packaged software is nice, until you depend on > it. There's too much "Oh my god it's not an rpm? What do I do?" going > around. C'mon, how can you mess up with Loki's installer? > > What's so hard about ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/stow/package-version > (stow is my friend!) && make && make install? > > And why would you need Loki demos in red carped other than permotion? Loki > has their own demo installer what will do the same thing for all their > demos, so must be permotion... > > Don't get me wrong, package managment is great. (go apt!) If I had to > compile everything I'd never run linux. But if I want the latest version > of something and it's not packaged, I'm not going to whine about it. > (debian-kde needs an FAQ: "Where are KDE 2.2 packages for Potato?", > "You compiled KDE from source? Can you make debs for me?" and > the ever popular "Are there XFree 4.0 packages for Potato?) > > So hear this plea: next time something you want isn't packaged, take some > time to learn about your system and compile it. > > OK...I think I can finish reading mailing lists now... > > Andrew S. Zbikowski | http://www.ringworld.org > "We can learn much more from wise words, little > from wisecracks and less from wise guys." > --William Arthur Ward > > > _______________________________________________ > Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > http://www.mn-linux.org > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > -- The more I know, the more I know I don't know. Confused and confusing since 1966. If I had a nickle for every time I knew I was right and spoke up, I could buy a soda, maybe even two. SG, O.S.D. (Opinionated, Social, Deviate.)