I agree with you.. I have seen ads for the "American Pride Pack for only $19.95! (+s/h)" It offends me as US citizen. Most of those ads are bulshit and wont last. However, as for the shirt I posted, I think it goes beyond that.. first, it helps the American Red Cross as well as the Linux community. Our ecconomy would not work if not for marketing such as this (as much as I dont want to admit it). But I see this shit as more related to Linux than the rm -rf shirt. Since the events of 9/11, our government is trying to pass all sorts of laws to try and fight terrorism. Specificly some that limit your rights on the internet and on computers. Unfortunetly, I feel that many of those laws are not constitutional- thus this shirt. On Thursday 11 October 2001 08:58 am, you wrote: > Okay, this probably isn't the place or anything, but I'm getting really > pissed about all of this nationalism. They even have a commercial with > people of various cultures saying "I am an American". > > This is all well and good, but wouldn't the most appropriate slogan (if > a slogan were ever appropriate) be "I am a human being". Maybe have > people say it in different languages. In the case of this t-shirt, > perhaps have a globe instead of the American flag. > > I suppose people deeply into animal rights would want it to be something > like, "I am a sentient being" or something like that. I guess I just > don't feel like going that far right now. :) > > Jay Kline wrote: > > Yeah, but I prefer the american flag with 'chmod a+rwx /bin/freedom' at > > the bottom.. less violent. :-) > > > > http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/apparel/5790.shtml > > > > On Thursday 11 October 2001 07:53 am, you wrote: > > > Everybody see this t-shirt yet? 3 bucks goes to the RedCross. Not a bad > > > deal. > > > > > > http://www.thinkgeek.net/stuff/apparel/57b2.shtml > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, > > > Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org > > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > -- > > Jay Kline > > list at slushpupie.com > > http://www.slushpupie.com > > -- > > You have a will that can be influenced by all with whom you come in > > contact. _______________________________________________ > > Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, > > Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list -- Jay Kline list at slushpupie.com http://www.slushpupie.com -- Just because the message may never be received does not mean it is not worth sending.