> Care to put a little info out on this Carl? I'm finding that Gnome 1.4 > is too bloated and slow for me, so I'm looking to find something that's > lighter and faster for my little ThinkPad. here's a slightly old version of my .fvwm2rc file. http://copper.redchrome.org/~chrome/fvwm2rc I can't say that FVWM is actually any lighter-weight than say blackbox, or icewm, or windowmaker. it *is* however, much more customizable than most (and just as much as any). I can rearrange/repurpose buttons; design/draw vector-graphic buttons in the config file (just look at the 'button styles' section of my config file); define how long it takes to auto-raise; define per-window behavior... and a lot of other things I don't bother with (bitmapped decorations, scripting simple forms/dialogs in the config file, and a number of plugins) I know that other window managers can do many of these things; but I haven't seen many lightweight ones that are capable of most of these things. (let alone all of them). also, FVWM is a very mature and stable codebase. I use Enlightenment at home, for the sake of eye candy and variety; but it's entirely too fragile. (too easy to break the config and leave it unusable). so I use FVWM when I want to actually get work done. still, I'll be the first to say that window managers are possibly the most personal choice that a user makes. everyone needs to choose for themselves the desktop that works best for them. this is why I resent the people who say we should only have one desktop for Linux, in order to beat MS... if that's the price of 'winning', I don't want that 'victory', because I'll be back to having my user evironment dictated to me. Carl Soderstrom -- Network Engineer Real-Time Enterprises (952) 943-8700