If you reaaaly want to see the site you may be able to get in by changing the user-agent string. (This is where I'd tell you how to do it in Konqueror/Opera if I knew) You can play with telnet to see what they will and won't accept: telnet 207.68.171.253 80 GET / HTTP/1.1 <return> Host: www.msn.com <return> Connection: close <return> User-Agent: whatever you're pretending to be <return> <return> (there are spaces either side of the / in 'GET / HTTP') - Mike At 08:58 AM 10/25/01, you wrote: >Did anyone else notice that Konqueror/Opera/non-IE browsers cannot view >http://www.msn.com today? > >A friend of mine mentioned the "new look" of msn.com. When I went to view it, >I get: > >Attention: Web Browser Upgrade Required to View MSN.com > >If you are seeing this page, we have detected that the browser that you are >using will not render MSN.com correctly. Additionally, you'll see the most >advanced functionality of MSN.com only with the latest version of Microsoft >Internet Explorer or MSN Explorer. If you wish to visit MSN.com, please >select the appropriate download link below. > >Internet Explorer for Windows >Internet Explorer for Macintosh >MSN Explorer for Windows > >----- > >IMO this is alarming. I don't think the page will even view in Netscape. This >is the first instance I know of where you can't even attempt to view a Web >page in a non-IE browser! > >Brandon >_______________________________________________ >Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >http://www.mn-linux.org >tclug-list at mn-linux.org >https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list