dillo.sourceforge.net it's mozilla-independent; and so doesn't have a lot of features; but it compiles pretty quickly, takes up only a few MB of memory (>7MB to render slashdot), and only uses a single >1MB executable. it also seems to be pretty library-independent... not a huge # of other libraries needed, so it's pretty hassle-free to compile & install. if I get NetBSD running with X on my z50; I'll have to use this. here's a comparison of dillo rendering www.slashdot.org, to galeon rendering www.slashdot.org: [chrome at barbarian:/home/chrome/code/dillo-0.6.1]$ps axu|grep dillo chrome 17492 0.6 1.6 6348 4320 pts/5 S 16:16 0:00 dillo www.slashdo chrome 17493 0.0 1.6 6348 4320 pts/5 S 16:16 0:00 dillo www.slashdo chrome 17509 0.0 0.2 1360 516 pts/4 S 16:17 0:00 grep dillo [chrome at barbarian:/home/chrome/code/dillo-0.6.1]$dir /usr/local/bin/dillo -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 968k Sep 14 16:13 /usr/local/bin/dillo* [chrome at barbarian:/home/chrome/code/dillo-0.6.1]$ps axu|grep galeon chrome 17535 21.3 8.3 28384 21460 tty6 S 16:19 0:04 /usr/bin/galeon-b chrome 17546 0.0 8.3 28384 21460 tty6 S 16:19 0:00 /usr/bin/galeon-b chrome 17547 0.2 8.3 28384 21460 tty6 S 16:19 0:00 /usr/bin/galeon-b chrome 17548 0.0 8.3 28384 21460 tty6 S 16:19 0:00 /usr/bin/galeon-b chrome 17556 0.0 8.3 28384 21460 tty6 S 16:19 0:00 /usr/bin/galeon-b chrome 17564 0.0 0.2 1360 516 pts/4 S 16:20 0:00 grep galeon I seem to remember some TCLUG-ers were once working on the predecessor project to this. are they still doing so? Carl Soderstrom -- Network Engineer Real-Time Enterprises (952) 943-8700