Cable modem is "supposed" to be available in Forest Lake come October. I called, and got details on it. From the sounds of it, they use an external router. Com-21 or the like. Anyone know something about them? They told me that I get 512 down and 128 up which sucks big time. However, it's either that or 128 ISDN or 56k modem... -- --- Shawn "Knowing is not enough, we must apply. Willing is not enough, we must do." -Bruce Lee