No. It means (for me at least) to bring people together from many different cultures to work on a fun project. I'd like to know more languages. I only know English, my girlfriend knows Spanish and some French, and right now she is in Japan teaching English to little kids, I've got to catch up! (most kids in the world know more than one language, but not American kids). The Walker Church is letting us use the space, it's not their project, but they do like the idea. The Collective Sage is working on this project. Don't be afraid of the Walker Church, it's just a community center that some people go to on Sundays for spiritual stuff. They are dedicated to the community, not to "Saving" people from "Sin". Their not even all Christians! (there is more than one religion over there, no, only one, love) KFAI radio started out there with a tiny little setup that broad casted a few blocks. The Heart Of The Beast Theater started there too, you know, the people that host the May Day Festival. They have helped many other groups start out also. Just the potlucks will be over there. We'll have to find other places to set up audio editing computers. I don't know where yet. I have a cafe in mind that is closed in the evenings, haven't talked with them yet. I don't even know what fables. Thats not up to me, I'm just the focalizer, not a leader. My job it to provide spaces and the tools, to provide technical support, and the project it self. I sent a message to this group because I know I need help setting up the computers. Setting up DeMuDi machines will be a fun project for a Linux group, I'm sure. I'm also getting a hold of people who have experience in radio drama. I'm sure they would like to know about how cheap and easy it is to set up a recording studio using free software and second hand computers. I really like radio drama (audio theater?), except I heard a cop show once, it was just as lame as a TV cop show. I like Ruby, The Galactic Gumshoe. check out www.zbs.org They got style! There is also 2000X wich does a lot of old sci-fi stuff from way hela long time ago, like the 20's and 30's. They have a more serious style, no comedy. So, a few Linux folks, some radio drama people, and a bunch of immigrant storytellers and musicians, We'll produce some works of art that will be educational and free. The Collective Sage is sort of a "Free Education Foundation" that will start projects like this. Once we are a non profit we'll get a hold of a space that will be dedicated to free classes, so any one in the community can hold what ever classes they want (like how to install Linux on that old PC you found in the ally). The Collective Sage, right now, is just me. There are a few people who are interested in helping me get things going. The only thing is that I work on an organic farm, and this time of year is very busy in the greenhouses. (Fat overtime check at the end of may after 6 70 hour weeks!) But between planting and harvest I'll have more time to play. Www.CollectiveSage.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jared Burns" <jaredburns at acm.org> To: "Christopher Howard" <seehow at bitstream.net> Sent: Saturday, 23 February, 2002 17:26 Subject: Re: [TCLUG] The Language CD Project, looking for programmers... Does "teaching language and culture through the use of fables" translate to "imposing religion on people trying to learn a language?" - Jared On Saturday 23 February 2002 07:43 am, you wrote: > We are also looking for spaces to use these computers. Like I say below, > there will be multiple language groups working separately. I have some > flyers made up. I just have to talk with some one over at the church to > expand the potluck to 3 hours and to make it monthly. > > > ---the contents of the flyer--- > > The Collective Sage is organizing > the creation of audio CD's that > teach language and culture through > the use of fables. > > Storytellers, Musicians, and Translators > of all languages are invited to > The Language CD Potluck Breakfast > every 2nd and 4th Saturday of the month > 11am to 2pm at the Walker Church > 3104 16th Avenue South in Minneapolis. > (down stairs in the dining room) > > For more information call > Christopher @ 612-874-7005 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christopher Howard" <seehow at bitstream.net> > To: <demudi-user at demudi.org> > Sent: Friday, 22 February, 2002 05:19 > Subject: [Demudi-user] Demudi Programers in the Twin Cities > > > We are looking for programmers in the Twin Cities area who would like to > help set up computers to do audio editing. The computers will be donated, > so they may all be different. (know any one who will donate?) > > The idea is to create a set of audio CD's that teach a language with the > use of fables, for each language in the Twin Cities. The whole process > will also help build friendships across cultural boundaries. > > The CD set would start off with something like greetings and counting from > 1 to 10, then cut out into a few minutes of fable. Then more words and > phrases, then fable again, back and forth and so on. After an > English-as-a-first-language person listens a dozen times the fables start > to make sense. I'd like the fables to be really good audio drama, with > sound affects and ethnic music, exposing the listener to a culture, not > just teaching a language. > > We are currently organizing potlucks over at the Walker Church (Saturday > March 9th and 23rd 11:30am to 1:30pm {maybe it should be an hour longer, > the second and fourth Saturdays of every month}), to gather the people > together to make it happen. The CD's will be published under the OpenMusic > License so they can be copied and redistributed by any one. Every library > in the area will get a set or two of each. > > Using Free Software is much preferable in this project because there will > be multiple language groups working in parallel and it will be very much > publicized. We don't want any bad scenes happening over commercial > software, plus it just fits in with the idea. Also we would like to know > the minimum amount of computer to ask for while seeking donations. The > machines will be dedicated to the task of working on a two or four CD set, > and they may have to be shared by a few language groups (more than one set > at a time). I figure 200mhz with 64mb, a Linux compatible sound card, a CD > burner, and at least an 8GB hard drive (can we put more than one sound card > in one machine?). We'll need a good mike for each. > > We are also looking for people who have experience in creating radio drama. > It will be a fun project, and it may last a couple years. > > Anyone interested?