Ok folks, political/richard morrell rants aside, I have a couple of questions about smooth wall. 1. when I issued a halt command while logged onto the box with smoothwall installed I saw a message that said "eth0 entering promiscuous mode" as the box was shutting down. Is this just a way of saying that it is resetting the ipchains policies back to the default accept or something more sinister? In my experience promiscuous mode is not a good thing for you card to be at unless you are running a sniffer. 2. is this product any good. I haven't seen any hacks for it yet but I don't know if it is any good. Cheers, rotbau