Is this what you're talking about: http://www.cs.ruu.nl/wais/html/na-dir/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot.html While he make some points, misses others, and gets one or two wrong, I sure got the feeling he's more someone who wants to show he knows a whole lot. If you're stumbling over these things, perhaps his is the better tool, but things are nowhere near as bad as he makes it sound. Religious war bait? Ed Hoeffner 1-271 BSBE 312 Church St. SE Mpls, MN 55455 hoeffner at dcmir.med.umn.edu 612-625-2115 612-625-2163 fax >There has been an essay floating around the net about why the c shell is a >bad choice for scripting. I read it a while ago, but dont remember where its >posted (Im sure a quick google search will turn it up). Does anyone know if >tcsh falls into the same pitfalls? Jay