> Maybe we should set up a test program to spew 5060/udp packets to > someone and see if they get received. Maybe they have it > setup for just > going vonage? Possibly, I haven't tested it to anywhere else, or tested using different udp ports. The packets make it to vonage, but vonage packets never make it back. They just implemented this NAT device last week, and I'm unable to find out why. > I did speed test with their online speed test and I was > getting 814 Kbps > down, 184 up. Vonage uses the g711 codec, which takes up 64kbps. I don't know why they don't use g723 or something which uses lower bandwidth. g723 uses about 5kbps, and the quality is pretty much indistinguishable through a phone speaker. Jay