On Sat, Jul 27, 2002 at 10:41:59AM -0500, Daniel Churchill wrote: > I guess it was obvious that this is how this thread would end up after the > first post. Still, I am disappointed and disgusted by the fact that it > actually dipped to the low of one person calling the other a dumb ass, > followed by someone else showing enthusiastic support for it. it should be pointed out (tho I suspect it's too late), that the person doing the name-calling was none other than our infamous Idiot Ben. :) For those who haven't been on this list long enough to know him; Ben is one of the most clueful admins I've ever met, and has an... interesting sense of humor. I seriously doubt he takes himself seriously, and no one else should take him fully seriously either, whatever he may say. :) I've learned not to think too highly of *anyone's* opinions on this list (including my own at times), unless corroborated by several people. Ben's occasional outbursts amount to statistical noise (unless you consider them a form of artistic humor, as I do); and should be treated as such. in short, don't take anyone too seriously, least of all yourself. that's the fundamental reason people get angry at each other. Carl Soderstrom. -- Systems Administrator Real-Time Enterprises www.real-time.com