Are you leaving Mychael on Stormhammer or is he coming back to Ayonae Ro? I might be leading a Nagafen raid sometime in the near future. ----- Original Message ----- From: <tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org> To: <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 12:18 PM Subject: tclug-list digest, Vol 1 #2020 - 17 msgs > Send tclug-list mailing list submissions to > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > tclug-list-admin at mn-linux.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of tclug-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. FAQ: Why can't I get into ftp.mn-linux.org? (Bob Tanner) > 2. Re: LVM bootdisk? (Joel Schneider) > 3. Re: About Embedded Linux (Joel Schneider) > 4. Re: FAQ: Why can't I get into ftp.mn-linux.org? (Scott Dier) > 5. Re: WAY-OT - A pic from NASA... (Lee J. Behrens) > 6. Re: Scanners (Matthew S. Hallacy) > 7. Re: List Policy Vote? To "Reply-To" or not to "Reply-To" (Matthew S. Hallacy) > 8. Re: Re: FAQ: Why can't I get into ftp.mn-linux.org? (Jon Schewe) > 9. Re: LVM bootdisk? (Jon Schewe) > 10. Re: WAY-OT - A pic from NASA... (Florin Iucha) > 11. ssl in virtualhosts (Austad, Jay) > 12. Re: WAY-OT - A pic from NASA... (Samir M. Nassar) > 13. Re: ssl in virtualhosts (Munir Nassar) > 14. Kylix 2 open edition (Brian) > 15. Re: Kylix 2 open edition (Florin Iucha) > 16. OpenSSH local root exploit (Kelly Black) > 17. Re: OpenSSH local root exploit (Kelly Black) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 23:31:57 -0600 > From: Bob Tanner <tanner at real-time.com> > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: [TCLUG] FAQ: Why can't I get into ftp.mn-linux.org? > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > Getting a lot of this question, both in irc and mail: > > Why do I get 'Too many users in your class, please try again later.' when I try > to connection to ftp.mn-linux.org? > > As stated in the .msg when you first log in: > > **WARNING** If I cannot reverse name lookup your host you are going to get > dumped into the default class which only allow 1 user. This mirror is for the > US and we are restricting it to US domains. > > -- > Minneapolis St. Paul Twin Cities MN | Phone : (952)943-8700 > http://www.mn-linux.org Minnesota Linux | Fax : (952)943-8500 > Key fingerprint = 6C E9 51 4F D5 3E 4C 66 62 A9 10 E5 35 85 39 D9 > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 23:43:27 -0600 > From: Joel Schneider <joel at joelschneider.net> > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] LVM bootdisk? > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 10:04:49PM -0600, Jon Schewe wrote: > > Well I got it shrunk down so mindi built me some disks, 4 to be exact. Now I > > can't write them. They're 1.72MB and my drive keeps on telling me it's out of > > space when I try and write them using dd. I can't remember if there's > > something else to do to the disks to make this work. > > Before copying the images to diskette, you'll need to format the > diskettes as 1.72 MB. The superformat program, typically included as > part of the fdutils package, works well for this purpose. Example: > > # superformat /dev/fd0 sect=21 cyl=83 > > If it's not already defined on your system, you might need to create a > device entry for the 1.72 MB diskette. Example: > > # mknod /dev/fd0u1743 b 2 76 > > Once formatted, you can dd your images onto the diskettes. Example: > > # dd if=xyz.floppy of=/dev/fd0u1743 bs=1024 > > If you're looking for further information on this topic, the LRP web > site page on booting linux for 'higher' density diskettes might be a > good starting point: > > http://master-www.linuxrouter.org:8080/floppy.shtml > > Joel > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 23:54:53 -0600 > From: Joel Schneider <joel at joelschneider.net> > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] About Embedded Linux > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 03:36:29PM -0600, Sreekumar Kodakara wrote: > > Where can I find a distribution of embedded linux which supports > > PC-104 and also fits in this constrained disk space. > > http://www.linuxdevices.com/directory/Software/ > > Also of potential interest: > > http://www.embedded-linux.org/ > http://linux-embedded.com/ > http://www.redhat.com/embedded/ > http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&q=embedded > ... > > Joel > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 00:09:23 -0600 > From: Scott Dier <dieman at ringworld.org> > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: [TCLUG] Re: FAQ: Why can't I get into ftp.mn-linux.org? > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > * Bob Tanner <tanner at real-time.com> [020306 23:33]: > > Why do I get 'Too many users in your class, please try again later.' when I try > > to connection to ftp.mn-linux.org? > > AT&T recently refucked their DNS again. I've tried finding someone Who > Cares, but nobody seems to. You get what you pay for I guess. (I get by > paying $30/mo for it.) > > -- > Scott Dier <dieman at ringworld.org> http://www.ringworld.org/ > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > From: "Lee J. Behrens" <lbehrens at boolion.com> > To: "'tclug-list at mn-linux.org'" <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] WAY-OT - A pic from NASA... > Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 06:21:10 -0600 > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > Actually Hitler won the elections in Germany. > > Yeah, but it didn't take long before the Germans didn't have a choice. But > we digress yet again.... (and again.... and again....) > > > Please keep your mouth shut when you don't have anything usefull or > > funny to say; do troll elsewhere. > > My, but aren't we in a bad mood today. > > Lee > > --__--__-- > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 07:14:44 -0600 > From: "Matthew S. Hallacy" <poptix at techmonkeys.org> > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] Scanners > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 12:52:33AM -0600, Austad, Jay wrote: > > Epson scanners seem to be the best supported. I bought an Epson Perfection > > 1240U awhile back, and I love it. It takes about 10 seconds to scan a full > > sheet of paper in full color. Other scanners that I've tried that with take > > well over a minute (cough, canon, cough). Absolutely zero problems making > > it work on my new system too. I just compiled Sane and Xsane, edited the > > epson config file under the sane directory to point to /dev/usb/scanner0, > > and loaded the scanner module with: > > [snip] > > > > The Epson has sweet quality also, much better than Canon or HP of comparable > > resolution/price. Even on windows, the Epson really kicks the crap out of > > all other scanners I've tried (and we have a ton floating around at work). > > > > Jay > > > > I have an excellent scanner I bought in '96-97, it's a Mustek MFS 12000 SP, > it supports parallel or SCSI connections, ledger size scanning, i don't recall > the resolutions that it supports but they're still higher than all of the > tinker toy scanners being sold today (of course, it cost >$300 when i bought > it, and that was with a large-ish discount). If you're interested in doing real > work quickly, get a quality scanner (preferably SCSI) if you want to play > around and scan a few pictures here and there, go for the low-end toys.. > > [trim your posts!] > -- > Matthew S. Hallacy FUBAR, LART, BOFH Certified > http://techmonkeys.org/~poptix GPG public key 0x01938203 > > --__--__-- > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 07:23:01 -0600 > From: "Matthew S. Hallacy" <poptix at techmonkeys.org> > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] List Policy Vote? To "Reply-To" or not to "Reply-To" > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > 1) Yes > > 2) No > > 3) I don't care, procmail will fix all > > 3 =) > > > > > I recently saw another list "convert" to Reply-To munging because the > > developers were getting tired of cross-posters and inattentive list > > users abusing the Cc: and To: headers, thusly receiving multiple copies > > of the same email. > > Some day people will find those things called manual pages.. > > :0 Wh: msgid.lock > | formail -D 8192 msgid.cache > > > Hey mom! No more dupes. > > > Chad Walstrom <chewie at wookimus.net> | a.k.a. ^chewie > > > > -- > Matthew S. Hallacy FUBAR, LART, BOFH Certified > http://techmonkeys.org/~poptix GPG public key 0x01938203 > > --__--__-- > > Message: 8 > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] Re: FAQ: Why can't I get into ftp.mn-linux.org? > From: Jon Schewe <jpschewe at mtu.net> > Date: 07 Mar 2002 07:34:48 -0600 > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > Scott Dier <dieman at ringworld.org> writes: > > > * Bob Tanner <tanner at real-time.com> [020306 23:33]: > > > Why do I get 'Too many users in your class, please try again later.' when I try > > > to connection to ftp.mn-linux.org? > > > > AT&T recently refucked their DNS again. I've tried finding someone Who > > Cares, but nobody seems to. You get what you pay for I guess. (I get by > > paying $30/mo for it.) > > Mine seems fine, although I have had problems in the past. When I went > through their tech support I was told that reverse lookups were unsupported. > I highly encourage you to send them a letter of complaint, it needs to be > snail mail though. Apparently it needs to be explained to someone at AT&T > that reverse lookups are a basic security feature of the internet. > > -- > Jon Schewe | http://mtu.net/~jpschewe | jpschewe at mtu.net > For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels > nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any > powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all > creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that > is in Christ Jesus our Lord. - Romans 8:38-39 > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 9 > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] LVM bootdisk? > From: Jon Schewe <jpschewe at mtu.net> > Date: 07 Mar 2002 08:00:38 -0600 > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > Ben Lutgens <blutgens at sistina.com> writes: > > > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 10:04:49PM -0600, Jon Schewe wrote: > > > > > >Well I got it shrunk down so mindi built me some disks, 4 to be exact. Now I > > >can't write them. They're 1.72MB and my drive keeps on telling me it's out of > > >space when I try and write them using dd. I can't remember if there's > > >something else to do to the disks to make this work. > > > > you need to dd to /dev/fd0u1722 as opposed to plain old /dev/fd0, not all > > drives support this. Also your images will probably need to be 1722 kb in size > > (perhaps a bit smaller). A good way to test your drive and disk to make > > sure you can use this size is to try and fdformat /dev/fd0u1722 if it barfs > > with I/O Errors you're S.O.L. > > The fdformat on /dev/fd0u1722 seems to have fixed it. Thanks. > > -- > Jon Schewe | http://mtu.net/~jpschewe | jpschewe at mtu.net > For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels > nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any > powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all > creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that > is in Christ Jesus our Lord. - Romans 8:38-39 > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 10 > Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 08:39:30 -0600 > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] WAY-OT - A pic from NASA... > From: florin at iucha.net (Florin Iucha) > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > --pvezYHf7grwyp3Bc > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > Please keep your mouth shut when you don't have anything usefull or > > > funny to say; do troll elsewhere. > >=20 > > My, but aren't we in a bad mood today. > > No, I am was not in a bad mood. It's just that random Hitler references=20 > in order to simulate the application of Godwin's Law are completely > silly and way more off-topic that the thread they intend to kill. > (I say "simulate" because Godwin's law doesn't force Hitler as a EOT: go > back and read it.) > > And b) the message thread hat OT so you can safely delete if it hurts > your eyes and wastes your time. > > And on the third hand, it started with networking aboard the space > station and drifted on to generar space age tech, which is almost as > ontopic to a Linux geet mailing list as questions about > samba/mailman/exim (They just happen to run on Linux and we assume the > poster tried to make them work on Linux). > > florin > > --=20 > > "If it's not broken, let's fix it till it is." > > 41A9 2BDE 8E11 F1C5 87A6 03EE 34B3 E075 3B90 DFE4 > > --pvezYHf7grwyp3Bc > Content-Type: application/pgp-signature > Content-Disposition: inline > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > iD8DBQE8h3uiNLPgdTuQ3+QRAr1OAJ9NvmcPbwwZSe4Ds6HzHAzupqeAMQCghXay > QHr4iJ5Ts0dzfYJ/Ovdngpo= > =jE3G > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --pvezYHf7grwyp3Bc-- > > --__--__-- > > Message: 11 > From: "Austad, Jay" <austad at marketwatch.com> > To: "'tclug-list at mn-linux.org'" <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 10:44:00 -0600 > Subject: [TCLUG] ssl in virtualhosts > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > I read somewhere that it's not possible with apache to use SSL with name > based VirtualHosts. It's because the SSL connection gets established before > the http request goes across, so it won't know what certificate to give you. > > > Is this still true? Are there any workarounds? I don't really wanna have > to use up a different IP for each virtual host if I don't have to. > > Jay > > --__--__-- > > Message: 12 > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] WAY-OT - A pic from NASA... > From: "Samir M. Nassar" <nassarsa at redconcepts.net> > To: Twin Cities LUG <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Date: 07 Mar 2002 11:02:53 -0600 > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > Actually Florin I am trying to install exim on Microsoft Windows XP > Professional. > > It has a mouse, a background and Netscape, so it should be just like > Linux 7.2 right? > > -- > Samir M. Nassar > RedConcepts.NET - We Build Communities > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 13 > From: Munir Nassar <nassarmu at redconcepts.net> > Organization: RedConcepts.NET > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] ssl in virtualhosts > Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 11:15:00 -0600 > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > On Thursday 07 March 2002 10:44 am, Austad, Jay wrote: > > I read somewhere that it's not possible with apache to use SSL with name > > based VirtualHosts. It's because the SSL connection gets established > > before the http request goes across, so it won't know what certificate > > to give you. > > last i checked that is not true, i installed apache and mod_ssl from > source and if everything goes ok it should create a sample ssl enabled > virtual host for you, > > let me know off-list if you want my httpd.conf > > -munir > > --__--__-- > > Message: 14 > Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 11:26:22 -0600 (CST) > From: Brian <lxy at cloudnet.com> > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: [TCLUG] Kylix 2 open edition > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > Does anyone know where I can download Kylix 2 open edition other than > Borland? Their site forces me to open an account and take a survey. I > don't like that in the frst place, but then their form won't work > correctly. I don't know if it's just a mozilla problem or if the form is > really broken. Anyway, I just want a copy of some free software and the > company that's giving it away isn't giving it to me. Can anyone point me > to a copy of it? > > Thanks > > -Brian > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 15 > Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 11:32:24 -0600 > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [TCLUG] Kylix 2 open edition > From: florin at iucha.net (Florin Iucha) > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > --hOcCNbCCxyk/YU74 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 11:26:22AM -0600, Brian wrote: > > Does anyone know where I can download Kylix 2 open edition other than > > Borland? Their site forces me to open an account and take a survey. I > > don't like that in the frst place, but then their form won't work > > correctly. I don't know if it's just a mozilla problem or if the form is > > really broken. Anyway, I just want a copy of some free software and the > > company that's giving it away isn't giving it to me. Can anyone point me > > to a copy of it? > > 1. Kylix2 is not free software. Borland isn't giving it away for free > (they ask for all that information in exchange...). > > 2. Even if you get it, when you install it it asks for a serial number. > That serial number you get by navigating all the hoops on Borland's > site. > > Cheers, > florin > > --=20 > > "If it's not broken, let's fix it till it is." > > 41A9 2BDE 8E11 F1C5 87A6 03EE 34B3 E075 3B90 DFE4 > > --hOcCNbCCxyk/YU74 > Content-Type: application/pgp-signature > Content-Disposition: inline > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > iD8DBQE8h6QoNLPgdTuQ3+QRAgAlAJ9/UglKxxkDevI4K1sxaRC1eajs2wCfUEvB > f+xg3yJ95vIFZXwmsPZcAwE= > =QUq3 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --hOcCNbCCxyk/YU74-- > > --__--__-- > > Message: 16 > From: Kelly Black <kelly-black at mediaone.net> > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 12:09:20 -0600 > Subject: [TCLUG] OpenSSH local root exploit > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > Crap: > Local root hole. Could be more remote, but untested... > More info here: > http://www.pine.nl/advisories/pine-cert-20020301.txt > > Patch-em if ya got em! > Looks like it includes up to v3.0.2 > > Kelly Black > KB0GBJ > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 17 > From: Kelly Black <kelly-black at mediaone.net> > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 12:11:31 -0600 > Subject: [TCLUG] Re: OpenSSH local root exploit > Reply-To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > Oh, yeah. Don't forget to HUP! > (I always forget to hup sshd to get the new version, but this time > I thought I would pass this info on.) > > Kelly > > On Thursday 07 March 2002 12:09, Kelly Black wrote: > > Crap: > > Local root hole. Could be more remote, but untested... > > More info here: > > http://www.pine.nl/advisories/pine-cert-20020301.txt > > > > Patch-em if ya got em! > > Looks like it includes up to v3.0.2 > > > > Kelly Black > > KB0GBJ > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > tclug-list mailing list > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > End of tclug-list Digest