Quoting steve ulrich (sulrich at botwerks.org): > os x provides all of the above. hell they ship with fetchmail and > procmail available by *default*. the terminal leaves a little to be > desired and pretty much anything that you need to build from a unix > perspective is available. Available yes, but have you actually tried to compile anything for it? The 2 open source projects I work on spend mondo-time trying to get an OSX port. Both are pretty xlib intensive. -- Minneapolis St. Paul Twin Cities MN | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.mn-linux.org Minnesota Linux | Fax : (952)943-8500 Key fingerprint = 6C E9 51 4F D5 3E 4C 66 62 A9 10 E5 35 85 39 D9