Okay this should be a response to Tim's message but I blew it and deleted the message (reflex) before replying. The following can be found as links by going to the Downloads page off of www.suse.com. See the site for specifics. I don't remember exactly but I think I've used the Atlanta, Chicago, and Bloomington, IN sites with success. I don't know if they have 8.1 or not. USA ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/suse/suse/ (Georgia, Atlanta) complete mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ftp.suse.com/ (Illinois, Chicago) complete chuck.ucs.indiana.edu/linux/suse/suse/ (Indiana, Bloomington) i386, ppc, ppc64 ftp.rpmfind.net/linux/SuSE-Linux/ (Massachusetts, Boston) i386, ppc, ppc64 distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/suse/suse/ (North Carolina, Chapel Hill) axp, i386, ia64 ftp.annexa.org/pub/suse/ (New York, Rochester) i386 -- Jack Ungerleider jack at jacku.com