Sorry everyone not Flamebait! The point I was getting at here Is other then the problems I'm having with trying to find a database that I can learn on and Networking which I see as a real pain and The cd burning.. Thats only 3 problems out of everything Libranet2.8 does, I saw "WOW "That it? Yes I payed alot of money setting up my office and trying to learn to do the same at home here on my own time..