I just bought a CD that, in addition to 13 normal tracks, has 4 songs "hidden" before track 1. Instructions in the booklet say that, to listen to these 4 songs, you should hit play on track 1, and then scan backwards to the beginning of the music, and listen from there. Unfortunately, I listen to music on my computer, and my CD-ROM does not have scan buttons. Are there any tools that might be able to rip audio from before track 1 on an audio CD? I tried grip and abcde, which are the programs I typically use, and both of them saw only the 13 normal audio tracks on the disc. Thanks, Ian -- Ian Stoner Philosophy Department University of Minnesota _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list