You have Covad? I feel sorry for you. I ran into all sorts of problems with those folks when I first started up with Excel Telecommunications, but alas I have switched OS's on account of them in addition to going back to Qwest. Kevin. On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:44:45 -0600, gkrueger <gkrueger at cleosci.com> wrote: > First, I'm not sure about Qwest DSL when not a Qwest subscriber. > > Second, I do have DSL through Covad on my Qwest phone line. I know > Covad works with 6 or 7 phone providers (meaning, as long as your phone > service is from one of the 6 or 7, they can provide DSL to you). Maybe > this will help you... > > Ben Bargabus wrote: > > >Sorry for the off topic post but I remember reading a bit about this at > >some point and I'm fairly sure it was on this list. I'm getting a > >little sick of my $120/month phone bills and was thinking about going to > >Vonage to cut that back a bit. I seem to remember someone here posting > >that you can have Qwest DSL without having Qwest phone service, is that > >[still] true? Looking at my itemized bill from Qwest I have the > >following items... > > > >Digital Subscriber Line Res - $14.95 > >Qwest Choice DSL Dlx - $28.00 > >Caller ID - $6.95 > >Line-backer Inside Wire Repair Plan - $4.75 > >Voice Messaging - $6.95 > >Qwest.net Internet Services - $21.95 > >[Misc local fees] - $13.52 > >[Misc AT&T fees] - $10.79 > >[long distance tax and surcharge] - $1.82 > > > >If I dump Qwest other than for my DSL connection do I just pay the > >$28.00 Qwest DSL Dlx fee or do I still pay for the basic line fee too? > >Does Vonage have similar taxes and access charges to Qwest or are they > >truly $25/month out the door? Qwest.net doesn't do a thing for me as a > >service provider so continuing to pay $21.95/month for them seems silly, > >can someone recommend a good but cheap alternative for DSL access as an > >ISP? I really don't need anything but the other end of my connection. > >I don't care about static IPs, I don't need phone support, I don't need > >web server space, I don't even need a POP account. The only things I'd > >like are that they keep up with the 640kb I get from Qwest and that they > >don't cap total transfer bandwidth over any period of time (not that I > >really transfer that much but I don't want to have to worry about it). > > > >Vonage users, did you have to purchase any hardware to make the system > >work? Did the hardware they provide (if any) just plug right into your > >network hub/switch and run? Anything you wish you'd known ahead of time > >that you can pass on to a potential customer? > > > >Again, sorry for being off topic. > >Ben. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > Help beta test TCLUG's potential new home: http://plone.mn-linux.org > Got pictures for TCLUG? Beta test http://plone.mn-linux.org/gallery > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > -- Star Trek Enterprise was renewed for a 4th season. Without increased viewership season 5 will not be a reality! Tune into UPN on Friday nights this fall.