dan wrote: > Both at home (Debian unstable) and work (Fedora Core 3), when logging in > I often get the little pop-up that says "I've detected a panel already > running, and will now exit." I'll click okay, and then it (often) immediately > pops up again! Dan, I got so fed up with Gnome 2.10 and it's family of "integrated" services that I decided there must be a better way. After doing an exhaustive search of window managers / desktop frameworks I've settled on a more minimal approach of Xfce: http://www.xfce.org/ While far from perfect, Xfce4 does everything that I need from a Window Manager without the long startup time, memory usage and almost "integrated" features. As an added bonus I don't have to feel that I'm supporting Miguel's .NET fantasy anymore. Regards, --Tom P.S. attached please find % dpkg --get-selections | grep xfce4 > xfce4-pkgs.txt -------------- next part -------------- gtk2-engines-xfce install libxfce4mcs-client-2 install libxfce4mcs-manager-2 install libxfce4util-1 install libxfcegui4-3 install xfce4 install xfce4-artwork install xfce4-battery-plugin install xfce4-clipman-plugin install xfce4-datetime-plugin install xfce4-diskperf-plugin install xfce4-goodies install xfce4-icon-theme install xfce4-mcs-manager install xfce4-mcs-plugins install xfce4-minicmd-plugin install xfce4-mixer install xfce4-netload-plugin install xfce4-notes-plugin install xfce4-panel install xfce4-session install xfce4-showdesktop-plugin install xfce4-systemload-plugin install xfce4-systray install xfce4-terminal install xfce4-toys install xfce4-trigger-launcher install xfce4-utils install xfce4-wavelan-plugin install