On Mon, November 30, 2009 9:52 pm, Mike Miller wrote: > After about 10 hours of working on this and basically getting nowhere, I'm > prepared to take more radical steps. I still can't get to Gnome desktop, > but I don't need to use it. In fact, I usually do not use it. I usually > use icewm in vnc. > > What I need is a way to get to my VNC session on the local machine without > running gdm. Is that hard to do? I don't have any hints specific to actually fixing this problems, but there are several work arounds that you could try. Why not use a a different *dm? I am not sure which ones Ubuntu has available, but I have used both xdm and wdm, though they have less frills than gdm. I am sure Ubuntu has kdm, though that it probably bigger than you need. I also see that there is an ldm, though I have never used it. Jim Crumley |Twin Cities Linux Users Group Mailing List(TCLUG) Ruthless Debian Zealot |http://www.mn-linux.org/ Never laugh at live dragons |