Ahhh, got'cha - so that points to the issue being with Qwest.net getting your traffic out of the area at a reasonable speed (if you get good speeds from that link, assuming it's actually doing a speedtest and not just looking at your account, it means that the chokepoint is behond that point..) On Mon, 19 Jul 2010, Ryan Coleman wrote: > I ran this one: http://minneapolis.speedtest.qwest.net/ > > Which was what the technician ran that gave me the 16Mbps speed. As you > can see in the data block there is only one other test provider that got > that high: auditmypc.com. > > Comcast speeds > Site Down Up > Speedtest 22.01 2.66 > Speakeasy 5.10 2.62 > bandwidthpalce 12.23 2.35 > auditmypc 20.87 3.51 > internetfrog 5.09 1.53 > DSLreports 22.15 2.55 > toast.net 4.56 NA > visualware.com 9.37 2.58 > testinternetspeed 1.71 2.02 > whatsmyip.com 20.67 2.46 > AVG 12.38 2.48 > Qwest SpeedTest > 24.89 2.505 > Diff -12.61 -0.25 > -50.6% -0.99% speed loss. > > Qwest speeds > Site Down Up > Speedtest 2.59 0.72 > Speakeasy 4.17 0.73 > bandwidthpalce 2.67 0.70 > auditmypc 18.26 0.76 > internetfrog 0.80 0.60 > DSLreports 2.88 0.69 > toast.net 0.75 NA > visualware.com 2.09 0.72 > testinternetspeed 1.88 0.70 > whatsmyip.com 6.62 0.71 > AVG 4.27 0.70 > Qwest SpeedTest > 16.64 0.78 > Diff -12.37 -0.08 > -74.3% -10.3% speed loss. > > I hope this is more legible for you guys... I know the Comcast does "speed boost" bursting which can account for some of the fluctuation, but the DSL should be a steady, consistent speed. > > There was nothing else plugged into the DSL or Phone system except for the modem itself. It's not a perfect experiment - that would be a reboot of each system and waiting 30 minutes between tests, something that with 10 downloads to test would have taken days to complete. > > -- > Ryan > > P.S. Nate - I know about overhead, even giving them 30-35% just to be nice; I've been a network technician for years in Windows, Mac and various flavors of *nix for the last ten years, and I was an early adopter of DSL in 1999. This is more a showing people my experiences with their "FIOS" connection which is a false advertising lead, IMHO, and fails to inform the consumer that the upload speeds are NOT proportional to the download speed. > > P.P.S. I ran the internet connection at my "office" aka cafe I like and they get 38.23 Mbit down and 7 Mbit up. Consistently. > > > On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:57 AM, Nate Carlson wrote: > >> which speedtest engine is faulty? >> >> The rates that the providers quote for speeds (for ADSL at least) are the >> maximum rates that your line can sync up at. You may be sync'ing at that >> speed, or at lower speeds (your DSL modem/router should be able to show >> those stats.) Because of overheads, you will never get the exact speed >> they advertise - it will be slightly lower.. if you read the fine print it >> generally states that the speeds are maximum, not guaranteed, etc. >> >> I do agree that it looks like you are getting horrible speeds with Qwest - >> it could be a number of factors (ie, poor line conditions on your end, a >> dslam without enough backhaul connectivity, oversold connectivty at >> Qwest.net, etc); you could try a different ISP if you want to keep DSL >> (since you are on an ADSL tier you can pick your ISP), which would >> eliminate Qwest.net from the picture.. but from my view if you are happy >> with cable then keep it! :) >> >> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Ryan Coleman wrote: >>> All of this is BEYOND my point: Their speedtest engine is faulty. It >>> claims speeds that it is *not* producing. >>> >>> I checked my cable line and the DSL line against a number of other test >>> providers, here are the results: >>> >>> Speedtest Speakeasy bandwidthplace auditmypc.com internetfrog DSLreports toast.net visualware.com testinternetspeed whatsmyip.com >>> >>> Down Up Down Up Down Up Down Up Down Up Down Up Down Up Down Up Down Up Down Up >>> Qwest 2.59 0.72 4.17 0.73 2.67 0.70 18.26 0.76 0.80 0.60 2.88 0.69 0.75 >>> 2.09 0.72 1.88 0.70 6.62 0.71 >>> Comcast 22.01 2.66 5.10 2.62 12.23 2.35 20.87 3.51 5.09 1.53 22.15 2.55 4.56 >>> 9.37 2.58 1.71 2.02 20.67 2.46 >>> >>> All speeds are reported in Megabits (Mbps), some are calculated from Kilobits per second. >>> >>> -- >>> Ryan >>> >>> On Jul 17, 2010, at 4:25 PM, Nate Carlson wrote: >>> >>>> Just a bit of clarification - 20mb/896kbps is *not* FIOS - Qwest >>>> advertises this as "Fiber optic fast", but what it really means is that >>>> they run fiber to the DSLAM that serves your line. 20mbit/896kbit is >>>> ADSL2+. >>>> >>>> Qwest does offer VDSL in certain parts of the metro, which is available at >>>> speeds of 40mbit/20mbit, 40mbit/5mbit, and also adds a 5mbit upstream >>>> option to 20mbit, 12mbit, and 7mbit tiers. If you got 896k upstream, >>>> however, you are ADSL2+, not VDSL. >>>> >>>> As far as I know Qwest does not have any plans to roll out a real >>>> fiber-to-the-home option - it's all fiber to the 'neighborhood' with >>>> various technologies running over copper to deliver the service. >>>> >>>> (Of course, Qwest does offer fiber services to businesses, but it's quite >>>> a bit more money than we're talking for DSL.. *grin*) >>>> >>>> On Fri, 16 Jul 2010, Ryan Coleman wrote: >>>>> 20Mbit. Which comes with an unreported upload cap of 896Kbps. >>>>> >>>>> But I'm probably calling them on Monday to tell them to pick everything up and take it back; Ran my own speed test through speedtest.net and the reported download speed was 3.2-4.5 Mbps. Same website on my cable modem reported 25+ Mbps on download. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Ryan >>>>> On Jul 16, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Donovan wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Ryan Coleman <ryanjcole at me.com> wrote: >>>>>>> I'll probably only end up cutting one of the two cable internet lines into my apartment... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 16Mbit download -- pretty nice >>>>>>> 600Kbit upload -- not so nice >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ran a speed test on our "public" cable line at home and got 30Mbit down and 3Mbit up. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Setting up a static IP on the Qwest website appears to be nearly impossible, that's a shock. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Ryan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>>>>>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>>>>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Which package did you get? >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Donovan Niesen >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>>>>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>>>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>>>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > >