I still use a couple of Linux boxen that are 10+ years old now as my everyday workstations. Debian on both of them. Amazing how Enlightenment has gone from a 'massive and heavyweight bloatware' to 'lean' by comparison to the new window managers/desktop environments. The limiting factor now is basically the web. Websites have become so bloated with massive Flash animations and shoddy javascript that some of them can bring your box to a crawl. Youtube is now the reason why I'm trying to scrape together money for a new computer... 1.1GHz K7 with 1.25GB RAM is just not up to the task of youtube anymore. (and Facebook and Gmail have their bad days as well). -- Carl Soderstrom Systems Administrator Real-Time Enterprises www.real-time.com