In regards to the VMware discussion thread that I started yesterday. I now regret it. Honestly it sounds like nobody on this list actually value's older software. VMware ESXi 3.5i is 32bit software that does not require virtualization on a CPU with the VT extensions. Yes it would help in a virtual environment, but is not required. And, FYI, there are two versions of VMware ESXi 3.5 (32bit) and Vmware ESXi 4 (64bit only). Thanks, -Dan On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 9:10 AM, <tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org> wrote: > Send tclug-list mailing list submissions to > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > tclug-list-owner at mn-linux.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of tclug-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Meeting (Robert Nesius) > 2. Re: Meeting (Ryan Coleman) > 3. Re: Meeting (Mike Miller) > 4. Re: Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. (Elvedin Trnjanin) > 5. Re: Meeting (Erik Mitchell) > 6. Re: Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. (Tony Yarusso) > 7. Re: Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. > (Patrick "Finn" Robins) > 8. Re: Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. (Chris Niesen) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 22:09:27 -0600 > From: Robert Nesius <nesius at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Meeting > To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Message-ID: > <AANLkTik86sXz=BMPDTHJ-i8whCka4CMc_uDvPvUojZkb at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Something in St. Louis Park I'd considering trucking it in from the St. > Cloud area. Getting over to Eagan looks tricky - last time I tried to get > over to the airport across the south metro during rush hour there was no > path that wasn't completely stacked up. Took me 45 minutes to get across > Edina and Bloomington. > > -Rob > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:41 AM, J.A. Simmons V <simmonsj at redkeep.com > >wrote: > > > I know of a security group in the area that does a rotating meeting to > > solve this problem. One month in Minneapolis, one month in St. Paul. > > > > Simmons > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20110120/7a613433/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 00:33:42 -0600 > From: Ryan Coleman <ryanjcole at me.com> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Meeting > To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Message-ID: <93A87D2B-ED53-42ED-9B61-95AEE9E133B5 at me.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Robert, > > You should consider 55 through Minneapolis and grabbing 110 or Pilot Knob. > Usually a much smoother ride, albeit one with 10 stoplights. > > -- > Ryan > > On Jan 20, 2011, at 10:09 PM, Robert Nesius wrote: > > > Something in St. Louis Park I'd considering trucking it in from the St. > Cloud area. Getting over to Eagan looks tricky - last time I tried to get > over to the airport across the south metro during rush hour there was no > path that wasn't completely stacked up. Took me 45 minutes to get across > Edina and Bloomington. > > > > -Rob > > > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:41 AM, J.A. Simmons V <simmonsj at redkeep.com> > wrote: > > I know of a security group in the area that does a rotating meeting to > solve this problem. One month in Minneapolis, one month in St. Paul. > > > > Simmons > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20110121/1a9ba17f/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 01:03:26 -0600 (CST) > From: Mike Miller <mbmiller+l at gmail.com <mbmiller%2Bl at gmail.com>> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Meeting > To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1101210100450.31009 at taxa.psych.umn.edu> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > On Fri, 21 Jan 2011, Ryan Coleman wrote: > > > You should consider 55 through Minneapolis and grabbing 110 or Pilot > > Knob. Usually a much smoother ride, albeit one with 10 stoplights. > > > Sometimes it's even better to get on the river road. Take the West river > road down to Franklin or Lake or Ford and cross over to the East. From > there you can get on Rt. 5. You might only to 25 mph, but you won't hit > any lights. I've used it to get from the U to the airport at rush hour > and it works great. > > Mike > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 01:08:59 -0600 > From: Elvedin Trnjanin <trnja001 at umn.edu> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. > To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Cc: Dan Smith <dan.smith225 at gmail.com> > Message-ID: <4D39310B.1000801 at umn.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On 1/20/2011 11:31 PM, Dan Smith wrote: > > Tclug, > > > > I know this isn't the vmware communities (VMUG) but, I thought I'd > > start here before having to make another user account in another > > system somewhere... > > > > I have a HP Proliant DL360 (G1) it's about 10 years old and I'm > > looking to find out if I can install VMware Hypervisor (ESXi) 3.5i on it. > ESXi supports less hardware than ESX. If you don't have licenses to > spare, this means you're a bit out of luck and have to go with the free > version which is only limited to ESXi. > > > > System Specs are as follows: > > Dual P3 (1ghz) Processors > > Dual 72.8gb Ultra320 SCSI drives. > > 4gb's of ram > > Looks like it's using the integrated Smart Array Controller. > Generally the storage controller is most likely device not to be supported > > > > This is the faster of my two servers. I also have a HP Netserver > > LP2000R running VMware ESXi 3.5i, but would like a little faster > > server until I'm able to afford a few Dell PowerEdge 1850's or 2850's > > to run Hypervisor 4 or have a enviroment to work with hyper-v. > You may be able to save some money by going with tower servers instead > of rack mounted ones. Dell typically has great deals on them. > > > > If anyone has experience with this server model installing a VMware > > ESX or ESXi product, please let me know. > No experience with this server model, but you might want to look into > ESX\ESXi version 2 although you may not be able to get licenses for it. > Another option is the hosted VMware Server which runs in Windows or > Linux as it will more likely support your hardware. > > > > Thanks! > > > > - > > Dan > > Email: dan.smith225 at gmail.com <mailto:dan.smith225 at gmail.com> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20110121/cad78f9e/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 05:55:05 -0600 > From: Erik Mitchell <erik.mitchell at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Meeting > To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Message-ID: > <AANLkTimmr+fH8vPKnC5iWCFTGkACOrDRW=Cm0f_bprfC at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Robert, > The Roseville location might not be any worse, although I can't speak > to traffic. You'd just stay on 694 until you hit 35W, and go south > from there to 36, and over to Snelling. If traffic is the same I would > think the travel time from St. Cloud would be the same to Roseville > and SLP. > > -Erik > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Robert Nesius <nesius at gmail.com> wrote: > > Something in St. Louis Park I'd considering trucking it in from the St. > > Cloud area.? Getting over to Eagan looks tricky - last time I tried to > get > > over to the airport across the south metro during rush hour there was no > > path that wasn't completely stacked up.? Took me 45 minutes to get across > > Edina and Bloomington. > > > > -Rob > > > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:41 AM, J.A. Simmons V <simmonsj at redkeep.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> I know of a security group in the area that does a rotating meeting to > >> solve this problem. One month in Minneapolis, one month in St. Paul. > >> Simmons > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org > >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > > > > -- > Erik K. Mitchell -- Web Developer > erik.mitchell at gmail.com > erik at ekmitchell.com > http://ekmitchell.com/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 06:11:30 -0600 > From: Tony Yarusso <tonyyarusso at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. > To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Message-ID: > <AANLkTi=k+_Bg1ZfTaR=nBu_nzTPTBZ9r4cmzR+ZizOg=@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Dan Smith <dan.smith225 at gmail.com> > wrote: > > System Specs are as follows: > > Dual P3 (1ghz) Processors > > Running a virtualization system on a processor without the > virtualization instruction set extensions will either be impossible or > just woefully inadequate, depending on the type. I'm not sure which > type VMware ESX is, but either way I wouldn't expect this to work > *well*, if at all. > > - Tony > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 08:32:57 -0600 > From: "Patrick \"Finn\" Robins" <13.finn at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. > To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Message-ID: > <AANLkTinaAZL9AyjM2ZVEe+6hvBRCvZwSCLUyXuqOLKj2 at mail.gmail.com<AANLkTinaAZL9AyjM2ZVEe%2B6hvBRCvZwSCLUyXuqOLKj2 at mail.gmail.com> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I have to second that. Virtualization on a CPU without the VT extensions is > a big performance hit. > > > -Patrick "Finn" Robins > > -- > Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter > and those who matter don't mind. > - Dr. Seuss > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20110121/20c3a43b/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 09:09:30 -0600 > From: Chris Niesen <chris.niesen at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. > To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Message-ID: > <AANLkTimxe-Bbi0Gat1U6zw4Vg=ps4t=snYsA7qGMWiMi at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > ESXi requires a 64 bit processor. Don't waste your time. > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Dan Smith <dan.smith225 at gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Tclug, > > > > I know this isn't the vmware communities (VMUG) but, I thought I'd start > > here before having to make another user account in another system > > somewhere... > > > > I have a HP Proliant DL360 (G1) it's about 10 years old and I'm looking > to > > find out if I can install VMware Hypervisor (ESXi) 3.5i on it. > > > > System Specs are as follows: > > Dual P3 (1ghz) Processors > > Dual 72.8gb Ultra320 SCSI drives. > > 4gb's of ram > > Looks like it's using the integrated Smart Array Controller. > > > > This is the faster of my two servers. I also have a HP Netserver LP2000R > > running VMware ESXi 3.5i, but would like a little faster server until I'm > > able to afford a few Dell PowerEdge 1850's or 2850's to run Hypervisor 4 > or > > have a enviroment to work with hyper-v. > > > > If anyone has experience with this server model installing a VMware ESX > or > > ESXi product, please let me know. > > > > Thanks! > > > > - > > Dan > > Email: dan.smith225 at gmail.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20110121/4c0ea402/attachment.htm > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > End of tclug-list Digest, Vol 73, Issue 40 > ****************************************** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20110121/51acf032/attachment-0001.htm